Freedom! - Wicca Official Worldwide Community of Pagans Wiccans & Neopagans2024-03-28T23:07:31Zhttp://www.wiccaneopagan.com/forum/topics/freedom?commentId=2453436%3AComment%3A257108&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI agree it took a lot of cour…tag:www.wiccaneopagan.com,2015-02-20:2453436:Comment:2594482015-02-20T18:07:29.639ZRodneyhttp://www.wiccaneopagan.com/profile/Rodney
I agree it took a lot of courage for Edward Snowden to expose the NSA and thier spying on American citizens I think he is a hero for standing up to the goverment and protecting our right and freedoms
I agree it took a lot of courage for Edward Snowden to expose the NSA and thier spying on American citizens I think he is a hero for standing up to the goverment and protecting our right and freedoms Briefly: First we need to reg…tag:www.wiccaneopagan.com,2014-08-15:2453436:Comment:2571082014-08-15T11:41:30.726ZFounderhttp://www.wiccaneopagan.com/profile/paolo
<p>Briefly: First we need to regain control of our right brain, thinking with OUR brain and not to be directed and told at will like submissive puppets by governments and related fellow interested friends. Entities that are interested only in their own pocket, not to mine and your wealth. Then, realizing the 'game' made at our shoulders, we need to get back control of our life and get back our FREEDOM!!!</p>
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<p>Briefly: First we need to regain control of our right brain, thinking with OUR brain and not to be directed and told at will like submissive puppets by governments and related fellow interested friends. Entities that are interested only in their own pocket, not to mine and your wealth. Then, realizing the 'game' made at our shoulders, we need to get back control of our life and get back our FREEDOM!!!</p>
<p></p> Oh I know , the USA is in a…tag:www.wiccaneopagan.com,2014-08-11:2453436:Comment:2568662014-08-11T23:54:54.050Zfantumofthewinds Mhttp://www.wiccaneopagan.com/profile/fantumofthewindsM
<p> Oh I know , the USA is in a bad way , regardless of what the headlines read , their manipulating numbers. and all is not as it seems. and with us poking our heads in others countries affairs , we are going to find our selves in another great depression . its not going to be long now. </p>
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<p> Oh I know , the USA is in a bad way , regardless of what the headlines read , their manipulating numbers. and all is not as it seems. and with us poking our heads in others countries affairs , we are going to find our selves in another great depression . its not going to be long now. </p>
<p> </p> Yes, but will go further bad,…tag:www.wiccaneopagan.com,2014-08-11:2453436:Comment:2568652014-08-11T23:50:12.046ZFounderhttp://www.wiccaneopagan.com/profile/paolo
<p>Yes, but will go further bad, with the banishment of cash and so on... trust me bro...etc....</p>
<p>Yes, but will go further bad, with the banishment of cash and so on... trust me bro...etc....</p> this comes as no surprise to…tag:www.wiccaneopagan.com,2014-08-11:2453436:Comment:2567672014-08-11T23:40:13.462Zfantumofthewinds Mhttp://www.wiccaneopagan.com/profile/fantumofthewindsM
<p> this comes as no surprise to me , they already know , if the moment you are born , a statement is sent to your parents to register you for a SSI card , and with that card everything about you becomes record . some called it the 666 I laugh , its your SSI , we are all numbered and accounted for .</p>
<p> this comes as no surprise to me , they already know , if the moment you are born , a statement is sent to your parents to register you for a SSI card , and with that card everything about you becomes record . some called it the 666 I laugh , its your SSI , we are all numbered and accounted for .</p> Freedom?...!!!... is being ta…tag:www.wiccaneopagan.com,2014-08-11:2453436:Comment:2568632014-08-11T23:36:00.802ZFounderhttp://www.wiccaneopagan.com/profile/paolo
<p>Freedom?...!!!... is being taken away from us everywhere in the world everyday, not just in the US, in the name of religions, recessions, security reasons, taxes...and etc. Leaders claim new challenges and problems all the time, but in reality they just want to control you. Similarly to what major religions did with naive ignorant masses.</p>
<p>We are the new slaves controlled by the 'digital' establishment of the 'digital' world. With the next abolishment of cash, governments will control…</p>
<p>Freedom?...!!!... is being taken away from us everywhere in the world everyday, not just in the US, in the name of religions, recessions, security reasons, taxes...and etc. Leaders claim new challenges and problems all the time, but in reality they just want to control you. Similarly to what major religions did with naive ignorant masses.</p>
<p>We are the new slaves controlled by the 'digital' establishment of the 'digital' world. With the next abolishment of cash, governments will control our incomes/money through banks and credit card company. They will know exactly every penny we earn and computerized programs will do the rest. Cell phones and computers, connected to security services, will tell them were we are located everywhere in the world.We will be 100 % traceable, spotted and our money will be taken under any possible reason or excuse, in the name of the needs of the country. Our privacy will be over and freedom, at least as intended for centuries, gone. This new total control over the masses will be made in a ratio never seen in history. At this point Snowden's revelations are like a mild breeze vs. a terrifying hurricane!! Unfortunately, I will bet on that next scenario.....</p> to me he was a hero , and wha…tag:www.wiccaneopagan.com,2014-05-14:2453436:Comment:2550872014-05-14T13:33:20.867Zfantumofthewinds Mhttp://www.wiccaneopagan.com/profile/fantumofthewindsM
<p>to me he was a hero , and what cat he let out of the bag should have been related to the american peoples , their is just to much being kept from us , its as if government says one thing and does another and this has been going on for years. Our freedoms are slowly being taken away , our kids now must recite the pledge , the law passed separating church and state is a joke and the supreme courts ruled its ok to pray at public meetings , I rather have logic here. one push forwards, only means…</p>
<p>to me he was a hero , and what cat he let out of the bag should have been related to the american peoples , their is just to much being kept from us , its as if government says one thing and does another and this has been going on for years. Our freedoms are slowly being taken away , our kids now must recite the pledge , the law passed separating church and state is a joke and the supreme courts ruled its ok to pray at public meetings , I rather have logic here. one push forwards, only means one step back .Its as if we are living in two worlds, a do as we say, not as we do world. their are now so many laws on the books, that a person doesn't even know, weather they are right or wrong. life is just not as simple as it once was. </p> I know, this subject could ta…tag:www.wiccaneopagan.com,2013-11-09:2453436:Comment:2486062013-11-09T01:49:33.653ZMark L. Leehttp://www.wiccaneopagan.com/profile/MarkLLee
<p>I know, this subject could take up paragraph upon paragraph!!! I deeply appreciate your attention to this issue. I am ready to take my health care degree and move to Canada. Where I can easily get ministry approval for chronic pain management. It is our rock stars who kill themselves on these useful drugs, or those who try to live like them. Not pain patients, unless they decide to end their life. A patient may apply for this in Canada too. Talk about freedom, plus others that are illegal in…</p>
<p>I know, this subject could take up paragraph upon paragraph!!! I deeply appreciate your attention to this issue. I am ready to take my health care degree and move to Canada. Where I can easily get ministry approval for chronic pain management. It is our rock stars who kill themselves on these useful drugs, or those who try to live like them. Not pain patients, unless they decide to end their life. A patient may apply for this in Canada too. Talk about freedom, plus others that are illegal in America.</p>
<p>Cygnus III</p>
<p> </p> Thanks Mark!
I believe that S…tag:www.wiccaneopagan.com,2013-11-09:2453436:Comment:2488092013-11-09T00:11:54.729ZFounderhttp://www.wiccaneopagan.com/profile/paolo
<p>Thanks Mark!</p>
<p>I believe that Snowden did what he did to open the eyes of US people in good faith. I'm not american but I lived long time in the US, so that I permit myself to have an opinion about this story...however, besides any personal opinion on Snowden, I was caught negatively by president Obama dismissing the whole story in a extremely superficial way. And unfortunately I saw a lot of people following him mesmerized, blindly. This is not good, people needs to think wisely using…</p>
<p>Thanks Mark!</p>
<p>I believe that Snowden did what he did to open the eyes of US people in good faith. I'm not american but I lived long time in the US, so that I permit myself to have an opinion about this story...however, besides any personal opinion on Snowden, I was caught negatively by president Obama dismissing the whole story in a extremely superficial way. And unfortunately I saw a lot of people following him mesmerized, blindly. This is not good, people needs to think wisely using their own head and examining carefully the elements on the table. In the case of Snowden was immediately evident that he had a compellent message to deliver to all of us! So that it is really unfair, to say the least, and far from evidences that he can be seen as a traitor.</p>
<p>I also felt this post of mine being unwelcome even here, a community of neopagans, that needs to be instead free thinkers, instead of blind followers of the establishment...well is also true that many people here are young, so that maybe are less 'experienced' or interested in freedom of people older like myself. Probably also cause they believe that they are free already. Instead in my opinion our freedom is becoming much more tiny every year and the establishment (not just in the US) is defining our freedom of lives, choices and worst, of thinking, more and more and more. That's bad, really bad. We need to rebel to this form of mass control. I stop here cause this issue can take pages and pages...I guess that you understand what I mean...</p> Prior to the election of 2008…tag:www.wiccaneopagan.com,2013-11-08:2453436:Comment:2485062013-11-08T22:56:20.036ZMark L. Leehttp://www.wiccaneopagan.com/profile/MarkLLee
<p>Prior to the election of 2008, I penned a very similar work on Witchvox. Do any of you know what this Tea Party, and other ultra-conservatives want? They have been caught at Churches stating that they want to see Christianity as our state religion. As well, they seek to force so many into poverty that the resulting chaos and war will bring on Armageddon and Christ's return, to sweep them out of all the problems first. Some would say, what a bunch of whack jobs. Still, they stand ready to…</p>
<p>Prior to the election of 2008, I penned a very similar work on Witchvox. Do any of you know what this Tea Party, and other ultra-conservatives want? They have been caught at Churches stating that they want to see Christianity as our state religion. As well, they seek to force so many into poverty that the resulting chaos and war will bring on Armageddon and Christ's return, to sweep them out of all the problems first. Some would say, what a bunch of whack jobs. Still, they stand ready to remove our freedoms, put witchcraft laws back on the books, and to create chaos "such as the world has never known (NIV Bible)!!!" I respect all faiths and was raised in Christianity, but when it is used to create chaos (they have to know the majority will never accept their drivel) I cannot help but think of what Anton LeVey once said, "You can fool people regularly, and it is not as hard as it seems (my best transliteration of what he has said)." Snowden is a hero, the weight of the presidency is heavy with all the secrets they must keep, and the sad fact is presidents do not know them all. Perhaps even concerning aliens, or weapons in space that we put there. Could these lose their orbits? With all of the conspiracy theorists, I am glad we are getting some unvarnished truth. Privacy, as we once knew it, is far into the past. It is up to all of us to get it back. Bravo founder!!!</p>
<p>Cygnus III</p>