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Our ancestors would watch and interpret the patterns that birds shown as they flew, roosted or the type bird showing up at a certain time. They also laid on hilltops and interprted the patterns in clouds (it's a duck deffently a duck. No, no, it's a dragon.) These activities have turned into superstions and childhood activities. Have you stepped outside only to hit full face by what nature has to offer.

I went to a wedding a fw years back and just as the couple was declared man and wife a pair of geese flew over the area honking happily. That was a powerful portent because geese mate for life often dying soon after heir mate does. Their arrival fortold that this couple would be together till death did indeed do them part.

Go outside find the symbols in nature and bring your findings here and tell us about them.

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I just moved into a new house Wednesday. As I was caring some boxes into the house, a group of 8 crows flew over the house heading north. Crow is one of my totems (along with wolf). Typically when I see crows and relate them to the old "Counting Crows" poem (One is for sorrow, two is for joy and so on), but that poem only goes to 7. Thought on this?
My pagan name is raven. It was given to me by an old friends mother who practiced the "art" many years ago and has pretty much stuck all the way through schooling and into adulthood. When I asked her why she said because it fitted - never did figure out what she meant but shince Ive been studying over the years maby she saw something then that I didnt - Mentioning omens it was just a thought
Well in Numerology the number eight is a number of foundation so maybe the 8 crows was a portent of a firm and permanant foundation in your life. Since the birds were flying north (the ancient home of the gods) that it also showed a foundation being established with the gods.
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This is the way I heard it. It goes to 10. There is another version in Charles DeLint's books. I will have to try to find it.


One for sorrow, two for joy,

three for a girl, four for a boy,

five for silver, six for gold,

seven for a secret, never to be told,

eight for a wish, nine for a kiss,

ten for a time of joyous bliss.

Traditional Rhyme
Herne said:
I just moved into a new house Wednesday. As I was caring some boxes into the house, a group of 8 crows flew over the house heading north. Crow is one of my totems (along with wolf). Typically when I see crows and relate them to the old "Counting Crows" poem (One is for sorrow, two is for joy and so on), but that poem only goes to 7. Thought on this?
In the warmer months befor they migrate, the robins in my neighborhood will escort me from the bus stop to my home. Hopping infront of me along the sidewalk or street they watch me all the way home. When one flies off another takes it's place. Anyone have a thought on this one?
Since I'm of Celtic descent my first thought was to Robin Goodfellow.

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